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Billionaire Citadel founder Ken Griffin explains why he modeled his firm after Goldman Sachs' analyst program — and says future leaders can't expect a 9-to-5 lifestyle and a 'great weekend'

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Ken Griffin speaks at the 2019 Milken conference. Mike Blake/Reuters
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Billionaire Ken Griffin is a fan of pressure.

The founder of the $32 billion hedge fund Citadel said in an Economic Club of New York talk with Goldman Sachs president John Waldron earlier this month that the best advice he ever got was to "spend your time with your strongest colleagues," pushing them to be better than they already are. 

"When you can make them 10% or 20% better, that can be game-changing," said Griffin, whose firm has the reputation for being quick to cut investors and teams that are underperforming. Last year, the firm ended its Aptigon stock-picking unit and dismissed portfolio managers that were portrayed in "The Big Short." 

Working with the top producers at the company is "much more powerful" than focusing on those who are struggling, Griffin said, even though it's more intuitive for a boss to try to help those scuffling. 

He believes that he has to "forge our great talent" through pressure — a reason why he said he modeled Citadel after the Goldman Sachs that Waldron, who has worked at the bank for more than two decades, came up in.

"The two-year analyst program at Goldman Sachs was renowned for the experiences and the expectations and the demands put on you," Griffin said, prompting Waldron to remark — with a laugh — that "there was a lot of forging going on then."

Despite people on average spending more time working today than they did when Waldron joined Goldman, businesses have also tried to incorporate a healthier work-life balance. Wall Street's intern and analyst programs specifically came under scrutiny after a Bank of America intern collapsed and died from a seizure following a 72-hour shift in 2013. Goldman, for its part, capped interns' days at 17 hours shortly after the intern, Moritz Erhardt, was found dead. 

Griffin said he is concerned that corporate culture is not pushing talented people hard enough, though. 

"[Leaders] don't happen because you work 9-to-5 and then have a great weekend," he said. "You need to learn how to make decisions, you need to learn how to work with people around you."

It's something he finds "worrisome."

"Where will our leaders come from?"

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Bradley Saacks
Bradley Saacks
Bradley Saacks covers hedge funds and other asset managers for Business Insider from New York. He first wrote about the multi-trillion-dollar industry for Business Insider from New York in late 2018, after spending two years covering mutual funds for the Financial Times' trade publication, Ignites.He left Business Insider for a little over a year, starting in mid-2022, and worked as a business reporter for Semafor, a media startup. He rejoined Business Insider in 2023, this time in the publication's London office, and has since relocated back to New York. A graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill's School of Media and Journalism, he was the recipient of the O.J. Skipper Coffin Award, which is given to the top graduating senior in the reporting track.During his time at Business Insider, he has broken news on the biggest names in hedge funds, including Paul Singer's Elliott Management, Ken Griffin's Citadel, Seth Klarman's Baupost Group, and more. He is interested in telling stories about the people behind the scenes who are driving big changes at the biggest firms. He can be reached on WhatsApp and Signal at +1 919 816 5537.Notable stories include: